From: faqs@pcserv.demon.co.uk Newsgroups: demon.ip.support.pc Subject: WINDOWS USERS: your questions answered Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 03:04:01 BST Organization: Dragonhill Systems Ltd Message-ID: <176642@pcserv.demon.co.uk> Summary: FAQ Look elsewhere for answers to questions concerning IP connectivity using any form of Windows software. Keywords: Windows WindowsNT Windows'95 Frequent posting IP DOS connectivity Organisation: PC Services Information Email server Frequency: 3-4 days... X-Killfile: BHK-d.i.s.pc-is-not-d.i.s.win X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 X-Remailer: SmofList Digest v1.1e1 (This FAQ is posted every 3--4 days in an attempt to divert users of Windows software on a PC to more appropriate groups; the regular reposting is handled thanks to the good offices of Paul Carpenter ) Summary: Look elsewhere for answers to questions concerning IP connectivity using any form of Windows software. For FULL FAQ see http://www.maghmell.demon.co.uk/dispc/dispc.html Sorry to disappoint any new readers, especially those using various Windows implementations of TCP/IP software, but this group is for questions relating to unadorned DOS *only*. OK, I know that this is not obvious from the name, but that was chosen when the only way to connect to Demon with a PC was under raw DOS; indeed, the concept of connecting to Demon under Windows would have been thought of as totally ludicrous. To pre-empt any suggestions that the name should be changed, I have to tell you that this cannot be done; whilst Demon are at liberty to create new groups in the demon.* hierarchy, actually *changing* the name of a group is impossible. The problem is that news groups don't have a single "home" (unlike web pages, for example); rather, every news server around the planet that wants to take the group has it's own copy (some estimates put the number of such servers at 400,000+). It's up to each server's admin whether or not they honour commands to create or remove groups, and hence Demon's instructions to delete d.i.s.pc and create d.i.s.dos would probably fail to be executed correctly at a large number of those sites. Creating the new group wouldn't be difficult; getting rid of the wrongly-named one would. Moreover, the group's name exists already on the local newsbases of many existing users of the DIS package, but many of them only take the group when they need help: if the name has been changed in the interim, what does the poor sucker find? If you post here, in demon.ip.support.pc, you won't gain any knowledge: a few flames perhaps, but little accurate knowledge. That's because your fellow Windows users, who have probably long ago solved the problems you're now experiencing, are to be found in demon.ip.support.winsock (yes, even those who *don't* use the Trumpet Winsock package). The only exception is that the users of Windows'95, having their own parochial set of problems, are to be found in demon.ip.support.win95. (Actually, there's an even smaller group of people, probably with a lot less problems, in demon.ip.support.nt, talking about Windows NT. But if you're using NT, you've probably already heard about that...) Users of Demon's supported package for Windows, namely Turnpike, may also find it useful to refer to demon.ip.support.turnpike. Please don't post here: any response you get will either be from a DOS user who has dabbled slightly in Windows, or from another newbie such as yourself, with perhaps a few days-worth more knowledge. Any answer is therefore likely to be incomplete, inaccurate, and based upon hearsay. Moreover, posting in the wrong group not only fails to elicit the information you seek, but also antagonizes the readers who are here "going about our lawful occasions", and thus it's likely to attract flamage. This article is posted twice weekly, so you've really no excuse not to have read it *before* making the mistake of posting in error :-) Those who are familiar with its contents can add X-Killfile: BHK-d.i.s.pc-is-not-d.i.s.win to their killfiles, if they wish to miss it in future. To summarize: demon.ip.support.pc is for matters relating to DOS-based implementations of TCP/IP transports *only*; those using Windows'95 will be welcomed in demon.ip.support.win95, those with Windows NT in demon.ip.support.nt, whilst any other flavour of Windows (WinDIS, Trumpet Winsock, NetScape, [Free] Agent, etc) should be posted to demon.ip.support.winsock. Users of Turnpike may care to visit demon.ip.support.turnpike instead of one of these groups, or perhaps in addition to one (in which case learn how to cross-post correctly to the two groups in question!) -- Posted by: Paul Carpenter of PC Services, on behalf of demon.ip.support.pc For details of FAQs, charters available from this site via email. email: infolist@pcserv.demon.co.uk with message ONLY of:- index end